tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112748128817762559.post2952917591792577686..comments2014-04-17T11:47:14.532-04:00Comments on shaRQ: Math & Myth: Quantum MeasurementQuincy Robinsonhttps://plus.google.com/106926519697432276895noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112748128817762559.post-16280169677601380202014-04-17T11:47:14.532-04:002014-04-17T11:47:14.532-04:00http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement#Definitio...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement#Definitions_and_theories<br />Measurement is the determination or estimation of ratios of quantities. Quantity and measurement are mutually defined: quantitative attributes are those possible to measure, at least in principle.Quincy Robinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12437811464432879555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112748128817762559.post-89088621512914110432013-02-11T00:34:08.459-05:002013-02-11T00:34:08.459-05:00In this presentation of Change as quantum measurem...In this presentation of Change as quantum measurement, it appears that the observer -- the one posing the question, handling the measuring apparatus, and recording the measurement outcome -- is also the subject of the measurement, the thing being measured. In the words of J. Krishnamurti, "observer is the observed."<br /><br />The presentation of the model largely omitted mention of the human participant and its roles in order to demonstrate that Change gives the appearance of tangled hierarchy, independent of any human involvement. The Field, Symbols, Images, and Ritual are not easily separable into independent entities. Rather, they all appear as aspects of a single whole. Adding the observer to the model does not seem to have diluted the force of our arguments. By doing so, we see how the observer is drawn into the strange loop, becoming both subject and object, observer and observed.<br /><br />Accepting this conclusion supports a premise presented at the introduction of this entry: that Change-cum-divination involves tangled hierarchy, which Dr. Goswami has posited as characteristic of a quantum system. By posing Change as quantum measurement, the boundary between subject and object seems to collapse or converge into the human participant.Quincy Robinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12437811464432879555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9112748128817762559.post-86779154055907689172013-01-19T23:36:25.016-05:002013-01-19T23:36:25.016-05:00The goal of this entry is to demonstrate a model o...The goal of this entry is to demonstrate a model of quantum measurement based on Change, the subject of I Ching.<br /><br />The canonical roles of the observer are to <br />1) choose the aspect of the object to be measured, <br />2) provide the device to perform the measurement, and <br />3) record the result, provided by Nature, of the measurement.<br /><br />Our model did not explicitly treat point (1), the observer's choice of that which is to be measured, which Stapp called the Heisenberg choice, i.e. determination of the question to be put to Nature through experimental means. The answer to the question is supplied by the Dirac choice: Nature's selection from the possible outcomes.<br /><br />Change-cum-oracle must be asked to speak, but not solely in the sense of requiring the measurement Ritual. The observer must frame a question in order to supply a context for interpreting the answer that Nature provides. Performing a measurement without first having formulated the question which the experiment is designed to address would be of no benefit to the observer. Divination is no different from Science in this regardQuincy Robinsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12437811464432879555noreply@blogger.com